Stevemiller07 13 hours ago

Wild times. The ethics and long-term risks here seem huge. Are we really ready for designer genetics at scale?

  • JohnFen 11 hours ago

    If there are two things SV tends not to care about, they are ethics and long-term risks.

    • red-iron-pine 8 hours ago

      "Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders."

  • gavinray 11 hours ago

      > The ethics and long-term risks here seem huge.
    
    Do they?

    If we have the ability to screen embryos to determine which ones are likely to have the least health problems, and to live as fulfilling and successful a life of possible, do we not then have a moral imperative to do this?

    Supposing it were free: to choose NOT to do it, would be to say, "I don't care if I bring avoidable pain and suffering into the world."

    • culopatin 10 hours ago

      Every time I talk to my gf about this we get to the “where do we draw the line” question. You can keep expanding the list of filters until you have people with money taking off not only in opportunity but now also genetically.

      • trod1234 6 hours ago

        Also, lets not forget the key concept of counter-party risk.

        What assurances and real resolutions do you have that what they market is actually true; and the baby your gf is carrying isn't in fact a mini-musk with no related DNA from you. Like a cuckoo bird.

        Interestingly the term cuckold, referring to a man whose wife was unfaithful, originates from the Cuckoo bird, where the bird is tricked into raising children biologically not their own; as happens with brood parasitism.

        These advances bring into question long-term fitness and survivability. We know mono-cultures die out quite easily.

        Before long we might have a "Surface" event, like what happened in that TV show. There are things that cannot be undone, and there are blind people more than willing to ensure those things are full steam ahead.

  • bithive123 8 hours ago

    Even absent ethical or practical risks, it seems presumptuous to assume that we know what direction our evolution should take. The inferior beings that need improvement are the same beings that will do the improving? That would imply an implausible level of knowledge about the future and what characteristics will be desirable.

  • rvz 13 hours ago

    > The ethics and long-term risks here seem huge.

    They [0] will do it anyway. Ethics, risks and morals be damned.

    Dystopia capitalism is highly profitable.

    [0] https://mynucleus.com/

bitbasher 11 hours ago

Pretty sure this was the prologue to Gattaca.

envp 9 hours ago

Am I missing something… why does this sound like eugenics with extra steps?

more_corn 11 hours ago

I only know seven sci-fi films and shows that have warned about how this will go badly.

Hatrix 10 hours ago

Next headline: AI Is Replacing Babies

jasonthorsness 11 hours ago

I get the few single-mutation-equals-fatal-disease screens, but I think with what little we currently know about most other genes and more complex effects, and how long it takes to see any outcome of your decisions based on this (and you’ll never be able to know what exactly to attribute to the selection vs. chance or other factors) this might just end up a very expensive pseudoscience/scam for a while.

Also I am surprised you can take five cells from an embryo with no effect! I guess at this point that’s probably well-proven through more basic screens.

greenhearth 9 hours ago

What's the point of these superbabies if their brains are going to be full of plastic anyway?